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later, karl rove and dick morris get banned from fox news for getting it wrong! begging the obvious question... could a fox news ban of its entire network be far behind? you are in "the war room" on a wednesday. we're just getting started. stick around! [ male announcer ] lifts to clear obstacles. ♪ ♪ lowers to cut drag. rises to every challenge. the class exclusive air suspension in the new 2013 ram 1500. and earth. guts. glory. ram. >> jennifer: you're back inside "the war room." i'm jennifer granholm. so we spend a lot of time talking about grover norquist, president of the far right lobbying group americans for tax reform. norquist, as you know, adamantly opposes any tax increases and he threatens republicans who don't abide by his code, pledge. let's not mince words here. the guy has a stranglehold on the vast majority of the g.o.p. and he's able to keep them in his grips because of his big money backers. so who are his backers? it is a question that a lot of progressives including investigative reporter lee fong have be asking. lee is here with an answe
later, karl rove and dick morris get banned from fox news for getting it wrong! begging the obvious question... could a fox news ban of its entire network be far behind? you are in "the war room" on a wednesday. we're just getting started. stick around! [ male announcer ] lifts to clear obstacles. ♪ ♪ lowers to cut drag. rises to every challenge. the class exclusive air suspension in the new 2013 ram 1500. and earth. guts. glory. ram. >> jennifer: you're back inside...
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bp >> jennifer: apparently there's someone that karl rove can't outfox. and it is roger ailes who is his boss at fox news channel. according to a report in "new york" magazine, ails is having all of his shows ask for permission before using karl rove and dick morris as political guests. apparently roger ailes was not happy with the baseless cheerleading and second guessing that karl rove and dick morris were doing and a fox spokeswoman told "new york" magazine that the rule is in effect because the election is over. it is nice to see someone on the right recognize the election is over. maybe they should tell the house republicans, too. so, it is not very often we see the house of representatives united but today they actually came very close. texas republican louie gohmert was the only member of the house to vote against a law stripping the word
bp >> jennifer: apparently there's someone that karl rove can't outfox. and it is roger ailes who is his boss at fox news channel. according to a report in "new york" magazine, ails is having all of his shows ask for permission before using karl rove and dick morris as political guests. apparently roger ailes was not happy with the baseless cheerleading and second guessing that karl rove and dick morris were doing and a fox spokeswoman told "new york" magazine that the...
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they are karl rove and dick morris who, shall we say, turned out to be wrong. will it's take a look. >> i don't know what the outcome is going to be, but we've got be careful about calling things when we have 91 votes separating the two candidates and a quarter of the vote yet to count. >> romney will win this election by five to ten points in the popular vote and will carry more than 300 elect torl votes. >> so erik, are karl and dick being put in the penalty box? >> i don't know. it was on his website. he said, i'll be on twice next week. it seems they're having to do some pr work. i think that's good. i don't think dick morris -- we don't need to hear from him anymore. >> the question i have, callie, is whether or not -- lots of pundits are wrong about a lot of things, whether they're being made to adopt a lower profile. they weren't just wrong but seen as partisan republicans as opposed to independent analysts. >> i think there's a couple of things going on here. first of all, he wasn't just wrong. he had a meltdown there. that was more than just wrong. >>
they are karl rove and dick morris who, shall we say, turned out to be wrong. will it's take a look. >> i don't know what the outcome is going to be, but we've got be careful about calling things when we have 91 votes separating the two candidates and a quarter of the vote yet to count. >> romney will win this election by five to ten points in the popular vote and will carry more than 300 elect torl votes. >> so erik, are karl and dick being put in the penalty box? >> i...
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karl rove has barely been on air. he questioned the network's calling the election for president obama. >> dick morris did say he was excited to be able to spend more time with his hookers. >> if you are a new orleans hornets fan -- >> new orleans har lots. >> if you are a new orleans hornets fan, your jersey may be a collector term. they are changing their name to the new orleans pel cans, tom benson who owns the saints said he wanted to change the name. >> did you get the story off of the on yun? >> it's true. i don't know why they would name them the pelicans. >> because the pel cans because the brown pelicans the brown pel pelican is the state bird of louisiana. >> the lakers, the name from minnesota, yeah. i think theat president obama should intervene here the new orleans basketball team should be the new orleans sxraz. they should take that back from utah because who equates jazz with utah? >> well, i understand that they treat people that play jazz music in utah the same way as they treated witches in salem. >
karl rove has barely been on air. he questioned the network's calling the election for president obama. >> dick morris did say he was excited to be able to spend more time with his hookers. >> if you are a new orleans hornets fan -- >> new orleans har lots. >> if you are a new orleans hornets fan, your jersey may be a collector term. they are changing their name to the new orleans pel cans, tom benson who owns the saints said he wanted to change the name. >> did...
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so what about karl rove and dick morris? michael calderone is the senior media reporter for "huffington post" joining us on our news line this morning. michael, we're not going to see him for awhile, huh? >> yes. i think -- i know you're missing him. but i don't think we'll see these guys for a little while. >> bill: here's the deal. i was chatting with some of our friends in the media last night at the white house is this roger ailes just kind of playing games and a little -- this is just a temporary retrieve because people aren't that interested in presidential politics anymore but they'll stay around and they'll be eventually be back on fox? >> well, say what you will about roger ailes. we know he's a genius when it comes to programming and trying to shift fox news to bring in ratings and he did this after the 2008 election. fox's ratings have been slipping during the end of the bush years and they had to reposition themselves. they went with glenn beck right around inauguration day and the party in 2009. that became the
so what about karl rove and dick morris? michael calderone is the senior media reporter for "huffington post" joining us on our news line this morning. michael, we're not going to see him for awhile, huh? >> yes. i think -- i know you're missing him. but i don't think we'll see these guys for a little while. >> bill: here's the deal. i was chatting with some of our friends in the media last night at the white house is this roger ailes just kind of playing games and a...
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now roger ailes is saying it was a joke and this is off the table like karl rove's pass at fox news. >> joy: do they have that much power at fox where they can tell you who's running for president? >> john: rush limbaugh has that much power. >> joy: okay. we've all heard that kate middleton is in the hospital for morning sickness. while an australian radio station prank called the hospital and got through to the nurse in kate's room. listen to this. >> joy: go ahead. >> that voice didn't even sound like the queen. >> i've got so much to say about this. first of all, how scared did that nurse sound? she genuinely believed that was the queen of england. the queen would not ring and go what time should i come and visit. it is my country my hospital, i'll bloody welcome when i want to. that poor woman her christmas is ruined. >> john: she will be working all night. >> australian, radio gold. you know that. that's gone everywhere. the worst impression i've ever heard. >> the worst. >> john: it would have been easy to be charles or prince phillip. >> actually said tummy bug. that's somethi
now roger ailes is saying it was a joke and this is off the table like karl rove's pass at fox news. >> joy: do they have that much power at fox where they can tell you who's running for president? >> john: rush limbaugh has that much power. >> joy: okay. we've all heard that kate middleton is in the hospital for morning sickness. while an australian radio station prank called the hospital and got through to the nurse in kate's room. listen to this. >> joy: go ahead....
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[ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] fox news benches karl rove and dick morris. a you it took them how many weeks? >> to their credit, their learning curve is very -- it is soft. >> soft, sloping learning curve. >> they've been this wrong -- they've been this wrong the whole time. i mean arguably without the supreme court -- karl rove would have been benched -- >> stephanie: all of our pundits are wrong. >> rove would have been benched by fox in march of 2000. >> stephanie: ailes wanted the faces associated with the election off the air for now. the director has sent out orders before they get permission for rove or morris. ailes was angry at rove's tantrum election night. [ ♪ nah nah nah nah nah ♪ ] >> stephanie: i love megan kelly. dick morris has a punch line even at fox. she had a friend that said i like dick morris. he's always wrong but he makes me feel better. >> if they're getting rid of everyone who advocated for romney, why aren't they getting rid of everyone? >> clean sweep. >> by getting rid of the two loudest, most annoying people, it gives them
[ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] fox news benches karl rove and dick morris. a you it took them how many weeks? >> to their credit, their learning curve is very -- it is soft. >> soft, sloping learning curve. >> they've been this wrong -- they've been this wrong the whole time. i mean arguably without the supreme court -- karl rove would have been benched -- >> stephanie: all of our pundits are wrong. >> rove would have been benched by fox in march of...
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looking out like a little roving panel panel a.m. on. >> that's the only way jackie got the picture. the president called and said, the coast is clear. get over here fast. because mrs. kennedy was so protective of the children. she never, ever allowed the kids' pictures to be taken. and the president was all for it. so stanley came over and he got an exclusive. this is where he took the pictures and then they went over to the white house family corridors. then they flew to camp david. staff trainers. this was for a cover story for "look magazine" called "the president and his son." in those days, the lead time was six weeks. the magazine was on the plane to dallas, and jackie told family afterwards, he brought her bum of all of the pictures. she said i am so glad that you and jackie didn't listen to me. she said, i would never have this. an the sad thing about this i wanted to keep him in his home but i was unable to. very much attention to him. so i contacted young john kennedy, and i asked him if he remembered stanley and if he did
looking out like a little roving panel panel a.m. on. >> that's the only way jackie got the picture. the president called and said, the coast is clear. get over here fast. because mrs. kennedy was so protective of the children. she never, ever allowed the kids' pictures to be taken. and the president was all for it. so stanley came over and he got an exclusive. this is where he took the pictures and then they went over to the white house family corridors. then they flew to camp david....
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. >> any word from karl rove? >> despite what we're telling you, it's over. romney lost. >> i guess it's time i explain, the good people, the upcoming fiscal cliff. >> the economy is the car and rich sman a driver. don't give the driver many. they will drive you over a cliff. just common sense. >> eric: not exactly. the only way to save the republic is for us to let the president go off the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up. but mandatory spending cuts get enacted. that seems to be the only way dems will cut a dime. let's save the place for the kids. do you agree? >> greg: i do. >> bob: i think you're crazy. >> greg: funny that bob and i agree but for different reasons. fiscal cliff is a horrible med fore. i means the high grade leftism. what you get are massive cuts in defense. and higher taxes. that means the government expands without improving the one thing that works. so you are feeding obese fat man called the government who still isn't doing any good. what they are doing is blackmailing us. president obama is blackmailing saying if you don't do this, if y
. >> any word from karl rove? >> despite what we're telling you, it's over. romney lost. >> i guess it's time i explain, the good people, the upcoming fiscal cliff. >> the economy is the car and rich sman a driver. don't give the driver many. they will drive you over a cliff. just common sense. >> eric: not exactly. the only way to save the republic is for us to let the president go off the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up. but mandatory spending cuts get enacted....
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we had karl rove. very quickly, favorite? >> kimberly: dennis miller. >> eric: miller? they're in my ear. we are going to toss this to doug mckelway who is sitting in "special report" for bret baier. doug, take it away, sir. >> doug: i am doug mckelway in for bret baier on "special report." president obama is going to address the nation. the question is whether the talks pushed them apart or got them closer to a deal with three days away from fiscal cliff. ed henry standing by in the briefing room. what are you hearing? >> senior white house official says the president told the republican leaders he wants up or down vote on the scaled back plan. he said that then the senate leaders jumped in and said they think they can get a bipartisan plan. the president told senators reid and mcconnell, i'm told they have a day or two to getting a deal done. otherwise we're out of time. he wants an up or down vote or the plan. at that point, john boehner was noncommittal and not say if he would bring it up for a vote. said wait until we cross the bridge. we are close to that bridge.
we had karl rove. very quickly, favorite? >> kimberly: dennis miller. >> eric: miller? they're in my ear. we are going to toss this to doug mckelway who is sitting in "special report" for bret baier. doug, take it away, sir. >> doug: i am doug mckelway in for bret baier on "special report." president obama is going to address the nation. the question is whether the talks pushed them apart or got them closer to a deal with three days away from fiscal cliff....
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. $40 million went to karl rove's cross roads which only had a 4% success rate. >> a lot of holes in the dessert. some of them got batties in them. >> stephanie: if karl rove were to get hit by a bag, if he steps on a bag of vipers we might know where to look. shortly thereafter there will be a giant cartoon hand knocking on mr. mr. adelson's door. >> vipers everywhere you look. >> stephanie: okay. we're just kidding. >> [ inaudible ] is lousy with vipers. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: okay. allison also -- >> that shakespeare statue vipers. >> stephanie: pure vipers. >> that statue of [ inaudible ]. made up of pure broken glass. >> broken glass. >> [ inaudible ] made of broken glass. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: adelson doled out $15 million to the coach brothers $6.5 million to the jewish coalition. he said he had been motivated to act because he felt vilified by the obama administration after his businesses were investigated. he is being unfairly prosecuted for bribing and money laundering. >> yes. hum. in most places that is considered a crime. >> stephanie: when i see what is happeni
. $40 million went to karl rove's cross roads which only had a 4% success rate. >> a lot of holes in the dessert. some of them got batties in them. >> stephanie: if karl rove were to get hit by a bag, if he steps on a bag of vipers we might know where to look. shortly thereafter there will be a giant cartoon hand knocking on mr. mr. adelson's door. >> vipers everywhere you look. >> stephanie: okay. we're just kidding. >> [ inaudible ] is lousy with vipers. [...
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and i really wouldn't worry about karl rove. far more dangerous hook up with glenn beck than karl rove ever was. >> bill: all right. good to hear from you. amanda, that point. there's a lot of evidence and i'm sure you looked at this in the so-called right to work states that for workers that's where they really get the shaft. >> this is a big deal. not just at the political level but at the individual level. having fewer unionized workplaces having right to work states, it tends to work the individual workers. they make less. they have worse working conditions. this has played out state after state. michigan will become the 24th state to be a right to work state. it will be joining other states that have worse working conditions and worse economies. >> bill: as the president said yesterday, too, it is an invitation to free load. people say hey i can get all of the benefits of the union and i don't have to pay my dues. >> that's what a lot of union members who wrote into us said they're worried about. >> bill: amanda terkel, goo
and i really wouldn't worry about karl rove. far more dangerous hook up with glenn beck than karl rove ever was. >> bill: all right. good to hear from you. amanda, that point. there's a lot of evidence and i'm sure you looked at this in the so-called right to work states that for workers that's where they really get the shaft. >> this is a big deal. not just at the political level but at the individual level. having fewer unionized workplaces having right to work states, it tends to...
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he seemed like a nice guy, but at karl rove spew better than yours. they were unwilling to listen to this show when amberson asked one of the tea party freshman. she said i.t. party constituents who insist we shouldn't raise the debt ceiling. can you explain what this is about? i don't want to lose my temper to them. i'd rather use it to you. this guy said the thing is it then reckless spending and if these are consequences, so be it. emerson went home and said wormy bequests of wine. i cannot believe i had a meeting with the type who claims to be a congressman. [laughter] >> although that would be a perfect base to land, we have one last question before we wrap it up. >> given that you go to a lot of these house of rep meetings, town halls, community meetings, are you hearing more or have you always hear people's day, if you just two days, meaning there's a correlation between doing some thing and in an result, what there's not a perfect is being considered, every more simplistic and what we believe can result from taking action than in the past? >>
he seemed like a nice guy, but at karl rove spew better than yours. they were unwilling to listen to this show when amberson asked one of the tea party freshman. she said i.t. party constituents who insist we shouldn't raise the debt ceiling. can you explain what this is about? i don't want to lose my temper to them. i'd rather use it to you. this guy said the thing is it then reckless spending and if these are consequences, so be it. emerson went home and said wormy bequests of wine. i cannot...
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." >> bill: karl rove accuses commerce secretary john bryson >> bill: a lot of talk about gun control. will we see any action this time? good morning everybody. what do you say? good to see you today. it is tuesday december 18. this is the "full court press." we're coming to you live from washington, d.c. hope you're off to a good start wherever you happen to be in this great land of ours. obviously i'm not. and it is great to see you. invite you to join the conversation any time by giving us a call at 1-866-55-press. or sending us a little tweet message on twitter at bpshow. we're following you at bpshow. and on facebook. facebook.com/billpressshow here in our nation's capital. there is word that after president obama and speaker boehner met yesterday at the white house in the oval office for some 45 minutes there is word that they're getting closer to a deal. i was out for dinner last night when i got a quick text from the white house saying president obama had agreed to up the limit on the tax cut from $250,000 to $400,000 meaning that under that plan every american taxpayer would
." >> bill: karl rove accuses commerce secretary john bryson >> bill: a lot of talk about gun control. will we see any action this time? good morning everybody. what do you say? good to see you today. it is tuesday december 18. this is the "full court press." we're coming to you live from washington, d.c. hope you're off to a good start wherever you happen to be in this great land of ours. obviously i'm not. and it is great to see you. invite you to join the...
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karl rove called it the gift that keeps on giving. for many years, it did. one thing the conservatives did not count on are two things. one, most families have a gay son or daughter they love or a cousin or uncle they cherish. the other thing, thomas, is at the end of the day, they didn't anticipate that conservatives themselves would come to see this as a conservative issue. >> sure, it's a traditional value. >> absolutely. >> when you have vehicle dick cheney who has a daughter who wanted to get married and start a family. just not from individuals on the right. we have seen elizabeth now. we have nine states in washington d.c. area having legalized marriage equality. >> right. >> the initial issue with the court taking this issue up was met with relief by certain people, certain marriage equality. some worry having the court involved could stall the progress. do you think there's the possible likelihood of that? >> no. i mean, i think there's always a likelihood, but i think the u.s. supreme court has ended up time and time again in our history reaching u
karl rove called it the gift that keeps on giving. for many years, it did. one thing the conservatives did not count on are two things. one, most families have a gay son or daughter they love or a cousin or uncle they cherish. the other thing, thomas, is at the end of the day, they didn't anticipate that conservatives themselves would come to see this as a conservative issue. >> sure, it's a traditional value. >> absolutely. >> when you have vehicle dick cheney who has a...
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[ applause ] >> stephanie: karl rove will be fax on fox news. >> did a producer get permission. >> stephanie: yeah doing fox business, barney and company. >> nobody watches that. >> stephanie: yeah they are second stringing him now. >> all right. >> stephanie: and also brett bear. >> people watch that. >> stephanie: ed henry -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: some fox shows over covered the benghazi he said i won't lie to you, i think we're covering benghazi a lot, i think that's something we should be asking about. some of our commentators over covered it. huh oh. >> that guy is going to have an accident. >> stephanie: step on a bag of vipers. michelle obama versus bill clinton in the spoken word category -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> i think michelle obama will take bill clinton. >> stephanie: i am so enjoying a bill clinton corkscrew. i do not have the hilary nutcracker yet. conservative actor steven bald win arrested for failing to file three year's of tax returns. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> uh-huh. he is one of those fake christian guys. >> s
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there are some roving microphones. you often hear the strive to the top is it tougher when you're competing to get there and it is kind of brutal. .t's pretty relaxed at the top are the knives still out/ >> you are always mindful of one you are doing and making sure that you were doing everything appropriate and that you surround yourself with people that are not just all going to be happy people and say yes, yes, yes, everything is great. i want to know what the other side of the argument is and to make the best decisions. sometimes i have gone against what my advisers have told me to do and they cannot better. >> how you internalize making a mistake that is public? >> do not let it stick. >> how do you do that? that is such a talent. >> it is hard. you hear that you can be cold and you can be teflon. it isn't easy. you try to learn from your mistakes and try to avoid anything coming back that looks similar to that. for young people, if you want to change your career and thinking you have to make a big jump, be a spon
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another guy stood up and said karl rove spoke to us this morning and he has written an article in "the wall street journal" saying this is obama's problem. you seem like a nice guy but i like it better than yours. they were unwilling to listen. as a tea party freshman she said i have tea party constituents. can you explain to me what this is about? this guy said well, the thing is we have been reckless and are spending and if there are consequences then so be it. emerson went home to her husband and said pour me a very big glass of fine. i can't believe i just had a meeting with a guy who's going to be congressmen. [laughter] >> although that would be a perfect choice to end, we have one last question before we wrap it up. >> given 90 but a lot of these meetings, town halls and community meetings, are you hearing more or have you always heard people say, if you just do this, just to this meaning that there is a correlation between doing something and in end result whereas the nutty other factors are being considered? what we believe can result from taking action in the past? >> the tow
another guy stood up and said karl rove spoke to us this morning and he has written an article in "the wall street journal" saying this is obama's problem. you seem like a nice guy but i like it better than yours. they were unwilling to listen. as a tea party freshman she said i have tea party constituents. can you explain to me what this is about? this guy said well, the thing is we have been reckless and are spending and if there are consequences then so be it. emerson went home to...
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i want so much to be able to bring the koch brothers into this discussion to see how karl rove going into this equation going back to the pow well memo. we will be back and talk about those things as soon as possible. thank you very much. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from georgia for the purposes of a motion. mr. johnson: thank you, mr. speaker. i move to adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the ayes have it. motion is adopted. accordingly the house stands adjourned >> the house as i adjourned -- the house has an adjourned and will return tomorrow at 9 a.m. eastern. >> a congress reporter for bloomberg news joining us from capitol hill. democrats keep pressing republicans to take this bill to the house floor. what is the status to vote on the measure? >> they have several hundred signatures, we were told. we are told that some people do not like to sign discharge decisions, would -- but would supp
i want so much to be able to bring the koch brothers into this discussion to see how karl rove going into this equation going back to the pow well memo. we will be back and talk about those things as soon as possible. thank you very much. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from georgia for the purposes of a motion. mr. johnson: thank you, mr. speaker. i move to adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is...